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The company I'm at doesn't generally allow fully remote work, so I am somewhat seriously floating the idea of commuting to their office in the Northeast by plane each day from Atlanta. Sounds expensive but the plane tickets would be balanced out by the much lower cost of living. I don't know if the idea is actually feasible; I'd have to test it for a week. I think you are wasting your time. This will not end well. I'm telling this because I speak from my experience with very similar situation.

Reminds me of a quote I heard once - "Marriage is all about compromise. My wife wanted a cat. I didn't want a cat. So we compromised and got a cat. If a wife compromises, the husband is a happy man! If a husband compromises, he is a wise man! Not sure if that was meant to be funny but I laughed. I hope you're able to find peace with the decision or correct course. I actually laughed out loud too. I literally couldn't care less where I lived. Is it really that big of a deal? I like sun, forests, and fresh food love farmers markets , and my wife can't live without Asian groceries she's Asian and international travel.

We want to be close to family, and neither of us wants to live in an urban area. Right now we're in Utah ticks most of those boxes , but I'm looking around for other options, and right now I'm considering central Oregon or central Washington.

So yeah, I think it matters a ton where we live. Sure, we could be reasonably happy anywhere, but we'd really prefer to not have to compromise. DoreenMichele 9 months ago. It's not central. It's Eastern. But my sons quit eating frozen veggies while we lived there and never went back. They got spoiled by fresh stuff. It is considered "the fruit basket" of the US, which I never heard anywhere but there. It's like some well kept secret. I learned to eat fresh pineapple there.

Having grown up on the canned stuff, it was news to me that fresh pineapple is awesome. I had a pretty low opinion of it. It's also kind of a retirement destination because it's relatively sunny and temperate for that part of the world. I was in the same boat as you, but there are big enough differences that I thought I'd get over but now recognize they're more important to me than I realized. In DC I had a big enough friend circle that any given weekend I could find someone to hang out with. In Evanston I could walk to everywhere I wanted, and in Rogers, I've got actual gigabit Internet and pay half the rent I was paying before, for twice the home.

Each new place has a different set of advantages and disadvantages. DC was crazy expensive, Evanston had my whole life revolving around Northwestern my fiancee was a student and I'm not making tons of friends out here in Rogers yet. What I did realize is that I could get used to anything, and remembering that my happiness is probably going to level out no matter what my situation is helps me cope with any of the bad stuff I don't like.

I find it hard to imagine that any one place is perfect, so if it's just a matter of making tradeoffs, I don't think the choice of where to live is one that you can "solve". Just pick a few things you want, and move somewhere that has them. I moved to Poland mainly for cheap booze and smoke. The latter aren't cheap anymore due to convergence with the EU.

Alcohol is still cheap though. Some places sell beer for less than half a euro on special nights. It's always fun to take visitors from Norway to such a place and watch their jaws drop. My Polish friends always wonder why I would leave San Francisco for their country. Poles love America and San Francisco in particular is a symbol of civilizational achievement. There's even a popular song about it. Well, one of my friends went on a work trip there and stayed at a hotel on lower Market for a week.

When she came back she told me "yeah, now I understand why you're here" or something to the effect. Why she didn't like San Francisco? Could you talk more about the process of moving to Poland and what you do for work? Remote or do you get a local salary? Interesting, which places do you live and prefer in Poland? Warsaw, Krakow or smaller ones? I'm a remote web developer. My wife and I live in Chiang Mai, Thailand, and we've been here for about 4 years. I think I first heard about Chiang Mai on NomadList [1], where it was ranked as one of the top cities for digital nomads.

My wife was teaching English here for a few years, and now she is studying music. I'm still a contractor and am also working on my own projects. We really love Chiang Mai, and it's been a great place to live for the last few years. But we're planning to move somewhere else soon. I've been working between Bangkok and Chiang Mai the past 2 years and love it as well. Made two trips back to the USA to see family, but spent the majority of my time there.

Both cities have different vibes but I'm productive and happy in both locations. Vietnam is pretty nice too, only been to Ho Chi Minh, would like to check out Hanoi early What visa have you used for 4 years? My wife had a work permit while she was teaching English, and I was on a dependent visa. We also did the hand-to-hand combat visa for a year [1]. Now I have a work permit with Iglu [2], and my wife is on a dependent visa.

You can find the fee information under "How Does it Work? I think it's a pretty good deal. It's one of the only legal ways to live in Thailand long-term if you're working as a web developer or startup founder. However, it's technically a tourist visa, so you're not legally allowed to work. You also have to file your own taxes, and I don't think you're eligible for the social security system.

I'm aware of the options - I've lived in Thailand for 6 years, and started a company here. For reference, in a month where we had client invoices worth 4 times the amount you've given in your example, our outgoings for Tax, Accountants, SSO and rental for a business address, was about 7. Oh, nice.

Yeah it might be worth setting a company, but I've heard a lot of horror stories. I met someone who actually shut down their Thai company and switched to Iglu because it was a lot easier. Iglu pays all of your personal income tax, social welfare contributions, visa application fees, etc. That 7. But it's definitely more expensive if you're intending to operate for more than a year or two, and expect to have reasonable income.

The bottom line is that staying in Thailand for over 6 months per year is illegal if you are working and not paying any income tax. Anyone who stays in Thailand for over 6 months is officially a tax resident even if you're on a tourist visa. So you will get deported or possibly sent to prison if you are ever caught and you never want to end up in a Thai prison. A lot of people have been getting away with it for now, but I don't think this will last forever, and it's probably not a smart idea if you plan to stay here long term.

I think the "working on a tourist visa" issue is a grey area, and they don't have any problem with tourists who do some work on a laptop. It just gets tricky as soon as you become a tax resident. You should be OK for years if you stay under the radar. But this is very important to sort out if you're going to stay for years.

A year after getting my first remote job, I realized that there was no way I could ever move back to an in office setting. No more commute, no more traffic, no more office drama, etc. On top of that, I had a much increased productivity and focus - all while being infinitely more relaxing and less stressful. So I left the medium sized city I lived in, sold my moderately expensive house, and picked a small town over an hour away with a rural fiber build out, and bought a much larger property with tons of room for my kids to run around on, with a larger house, for much less money than my previous house.

Where to Live Du Fu West of the Flower Washing Stream, not far downstream from the bridge, the master has chosen a quiet spot here in the woods by the river. Living apart from the city crowds, the world loosens its grip; murmuring of this clear water dissolves the sadness that burdens a stranger. Countless dragonflies play in the air, dancing up and down; a pair of wild ducks out in the stream swim and dive together. I live in New Hampshire because it is where I was born, so it is as close to a homeland as I have.

I wish it had nicer things, like better food culture, so I will improve it as much as I can. Many friends I know want to move to the city when young and then to the country with a house when they are old. This seems backwards to me. I want a home now, with workshop and woods I and my children can run wild in. I am 30 and am in the final month of building a home just 5 minutes walk from Amherst village, on 4. When I am old I may sell my house, maybe all my things, and move to a small flat in a city, like Cambridge MA or Paris.

Nice translation. The river he referred to was probably the Yangtse, which flows through southern Sichuan across central China to Shanghai which didn't exist in Dufu's day, Yangzhou, Suzhou and Nanjing were far wealthier. You can still find quiet places on the upper Yangtse where land is cheap and nature plentiful, though mostly in neighbouring Yunnan province. NickM 9 months ago. Smaller, less "glamorous" cities are often the best option for remote workers in my opinion; there are a lot of cities out there in places like e. And at the same time, they also have very low cost of living and avoid a lot of the overcrowding problems you see in bigger, trendier urban areas.

There are definitely some neighborhoods that I avoid, but there are also extremely nice areas in the city with beautiful yet affordable housing and lots to do. There are all kinds of fun events, concerts, and festivals going on all year; lots of nice restaurants, bars, and coffee shops; an assortment of beautiful parks; the list goes on. The community of friends I've met here is also much more tight knit than anything I've encountered in bigger, busier cities.

I think a lot of people tend to gravitate toward extremes: I see a lot of answers in this thread pointing to very large cities, or super-rural areas out in nature, or far-away international metropolises. There's definitely something to be said for picking a middle ground, though - I feel like I get to have my cake and eat it too, and if I want to occasionally go to a Michelin star restaurant or climb a mountain, I can always do that on vacation which, of course, is easy to fit in the budget too, given the amount of money I save by living here.

Thanks for sharing! What kind of outdoor activities do you have in Rochester? Any mountain skiing? How far from the city is that? Bristol Mountain and Swain are both around an hour outside of Rochester. Goldilocks weather. Good access to activities I like hiking, Tahoe, Napa, etc. Wife really wants to stay. Have thought about moving to SF with the family, curious to hear what the downsides are other than real-estate prices. Traffic can be pretty bad, parking sucks and public transit is there but not that great.

Seems to be at least one crazy person on the bus whenever I take it. I don't get the mix of highest salaries and real estate prices and unicorn companies within a primarily leftist society. I just can't. It's actually pretty easy to understand.

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Affordability is not and never was the priority in San Francisco. What are the priorities are things like environmental issues, keeping the police in check making it politically impossible to enforce any norms of civilized behavior, e. A lot of this policy is admirable in its intent but has the mostly unintended side-effect of making everything horrendously expensive.

How could it be anything else All the employers know this, so they pay salaries that make it worthwhile for people to show up. Oh, and the schools, roads, and other infrastructure are pretty bad, too, and there's trash everywhere. The real suckers seem to be the companies willing to pay the wages to keep this whole huge ponzi scheme going. The whole thing is a massive transfer from shareholders to local land owners, and government employees. I'm not being cynical, this is just how it works, after living here for seven years.

All of the above is spot on. It is possible to make government more efficient, and not resort to the private sector which has other problems. I make a circuit around the southwest US based on the season and which friends I would like to visit. I spent too long living essentially in an Arctic cabin, and like being in the city. I assume my criteria is like that of anyone else, but I have great flexibility with no spouse, children, no home ownership and self-employment. Naturally, I look for cities that have culture that I like.

I enjoy staying in ski resorts for a couple weeks in the off season, or hanging out at a state park for a while. I practice and appreciate art and music, and enjoy establishments such as industrial chic coffee shops and semi-hipster cocktail bars, cideries, distilleries and wine bars. Weather is a big deal to me, as I spent years slogging through snow despite being from the southwest. I can schedule my life like a snowbird and go north in the summer and south in the winter. Currently, I am deciding whether to stay around Colorado, or head to Texas and Arizona followed by Oregon and Washington when that gets too warm.

How do you arrange housing? In a variety of modes. I lived in a house for 10 years where I was persnickety about 8. So, I remain very flexible about accommodation. Thanks -- I've thought before about moving with the seasons and hoped there might be better answers. Live in Braga, Portugal. My wife is Portuguese, but has no ties to our current location, nor do I. We moved here, because we found a great house, in a great location that we could buy for reasonable money.

Portugal is an affordable country if not in Lisbon or Porto , with great people, great food and great weather. Education is great, and the startup ecosystem is ambitious and growing rapidly. Let me know if anyone would like to meet up, if you're here; or any tips on moving here.

DoingIsLearning 9 months ago. Portuguese here, I moved out of the country and I have worked in the UK for over a decade and more recently relocated again to the Netherlands. Both myself and my wife have really enjoyed the opportunities we had along the way, both in terms of lifestyle, research projects and financially. But we are now at a point where we both feel the urge to "come back home". I would love to hear your feedback from an outsider looking into the tech scene in Portugal. Has this changed in these past years? Do you see companies actually securing VC funding rounds or growing into more mature businesses?

Also perhaps an inferiority complex bias but I feel that, for larger service companies, Portugal is still scene as what they would call a 'near-shore' outsourcing tech pool, where you can get a bit more quality output but still at a fairly cheap price point. Has this changed? Do you see that Software teams can command competitive salaries when compared to other European locations?

I've visited nearby Guimaraes. Not much English is spoken up there. Did you have to learn Portuguese? Everyone in tech speaks English just fine. For day-to-day, it does make your life much easier. Surprisingly, banks are a pain to deal with, without speaking Portuguese. I learned because my parents in law didn't speak English very well. Portuguese is a rich language, and Portuguese people are typically familiar with the countries famous writers and poets. That makes it a valuable language to learn. I live in coastal Los Angeles. The city has everything I'm looking for: fantastic weather esp.

I work for a fully distributed team Agentrisk , with people across the US and Europe. I'd be hard-pressed to leave SoCal for any other place. Seafarer here. After bouncing from ship to ship from , and spending a few days in each place I was dumped between ships, I narrowed my options to Viana do Castello in Portugal, Edinburgh in Scotland, and Whangarei in New Zealand. I ended up settling in New Zealand in because I love the culture, the fact that it's a long way from the rest of the world, it's affordable, and it has a lot of options for travel. I fly from there to my ship, then go home when the trip's over.

How are you able to stay in NZ long term? Been looking for visa options without a full-time employment gig. I live in Jerusalem, but originally from America. I have travelled and lived all over. Jerusalem is special. In other cities people are trying to be cool, in Jerusalem people just are. The city feels international and small town at the same time. I choose to live here because it's the best place I found. If you dont mind me asking, is this on a work visa or something like aliyah?

I made Aliyah, but work visas are also possible I think Actually there is a huge shortage of tech talent. It's so bad the government is trying hard to encourage arabs and ultra-orthodox jews into tech. Spot on! Jerusalem is great: perfect weather, incredible people, easy access to nature, lots of culture all around. Can you expand on that just a bit? Also, curious if you are Jewish by birth or conversion? In many cities I have lived in people are trying to be something they are not.

They wear designer clothing, talk about the latest trends, dress like a hippy- they do this to fit into some group. In Jerusalem it is not like that. People just do their thing and don't even think about it. I think it allows for more genuine relationships, more genuine interactions. Another great thing about Jerusalem is that it's a smallish city. You see your friends on the street, you recognize faces at parties. You go to the local cafe and you know a few people there But at the same time it's not so small that you know everyone. There are always new people to meet.

Interesting answer. Do you ever worry about security issues? No not really. I stay out of the dangerous neighborhoods and its alright. It feels very safe.

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Except for a few years ago when there was a wave of terrorist stabbings. Streets were empty. Everyone was looking back every few moments to see if they were being followed. Eye contact was made between every passing stranger in order to determine if they were about to stab you. It was scary but it did not last for too long.

It was also a fascinating experience. Do people treat you like a foreigner? That would be my concern about leaving America. I have many friends who moved to Europe who say the locals never let them speak their language and keep their distance. Not OP, but gonna pipe in as a Jerusalemite: in Israel, being a foreigner is almost a default state. Jerusalem is a very international city. Lots of students, artists and tourists from all over the world. Locals are used to and friendly friendly to foreigners. I'm not a freelancer but it's not that hard to find a dev job in most major cities.

I was living in SF and moved to NY. Reasons include: - Getting out of the state I had spent my whole life in until that point. California is a great state, but I don't think I would have been happy with myself if I had never lived outside it for a significant amount of time. Here, there are plenty of other industries assisting with gentrification, so we don't get singled out. They just moved to Brooklyn, and I live a 5 min walk from the location.

I miss my friends back home and being near all the nature that CA has, but overall it's a pretty good life here. I live in Denver now but did a bit of analysis off of census and economic data: 1. Move somewhere where college graduates choose to move this is a proxy for restaurants, arts, high paying jobs 2.

Move somewhere where desired incoming levels have net population increases immigration 3. Move somewhere within the major metropolitan statistical areas with continuous growth city populations are funny, MSA is more informative for my case 4. Scrape user profile locations off multiple websites to determine "Online participation" as a proxy for more modern citizens 5. Scrape job sites by the keywords in my field, full time, non-contract. PascLeRasc 9 months ago. How did you do 4? What other cities came up high in this algorithm? I made a information map of MSA Metropolitan statistical areas and then linked it to common names for those areas and sites such as reddit.

There was a bit more to it though around sentiment analysis because some cities higher on the MSA are really in decline, but have increasing populations of very low wage workers with decreasing high wage workers. The cities on the top of the list were not surprising given my very limited scope San Francisco, New York, Denver, Seattle, Boston etc. The one that ranked highest that was most surprising was Minneapolis, they are fairly strong in almost all the metrics I was looking at. The question based on your analysis is, do you live to work or do you work to live?

Good question - the flip side is, if I cover those bases, then I have time to do the things I like because I am not worrying about them. FigureTheGreat 9 months ago. Plus Reno airport within 40 mins and I got a sqft house for the same price I paid for a 1br in SF. You wouldn't rather live on the NV side, given the tax savings?

I grew up in a small town where every single female left at I moved to a nearby university town because I read it had a six to 1 female to male ratio, and was still close enough to everyone I knew, and wasn't a huge city. Years later, I had to move to a huge city to find the women I ended up getting engaged to. I had worked out that only 0. So, all my major moves so far have been to go where the women are!

If you're having trouble connecting with people, try avoiding dehumanizing terms like "female". I chose based on my personality type and social needs. I'm an INTP so I needed a good intellectual milieu that I could interact with which meant having good universities nearby , but I also wanted to be among people who were friendly and accepting of outsiders non-cliquish.

It was a toss-up between Boston and Chicago, and I chose Chicago. Boston would have been a good choice except I hear it's really hard to make friends there, but once you've broken through, friendships can be deep. Many people don't break through though. Chicago people on the other hand are much friendlier, but it doesn't go beyond the surface friendliness. One doesn't typically get invited to dinners, so one has to make a conscious effort to reach out.

I did, and have managed to get connected. For me, two things in life were most important: - Meaningful work - Edifying relationships So my choice of location was calculated to maximize the probability of achieving these goals. Factors that were not important for me were cost-of-living, personal space, suburban-level safety, nature, schools I don't have kids.

I recognize that these are important to others and contribute to achieving their goals in their lives. I think most people have similar aspirations to mine in terms of finding meaning, but my path is just slightly different. Fellow INTP here, similar requirements for me choosing where to live with friendly people accepting of outsiders. However, we ended up in the opposite environment than you, our nearest community is less than people.

If we don't wave to every passing vehicle, people might think something is wrong I work remotely in a flyover state near family which is important with kids. The low cost of living doesn't hurt either. Pretty much the same reason I chose Shenzhen in , after living in-and-out of the country for many years on extended business trips. Anything except for Internet is there. You may have a gigabit line to your desktop, but even internal Chinese Internet will be screeching slow unless you visit a site with an own CDN in every city.

I also worked in Shanghai on a 6 month assignment once. Line 2 rush hour commute was an everyday near death experience commuting in between Lujiazui and high tech park where chip cos were. TomMarius 9 months ago. How does a person from the west move to China? Chengdu interests me. I got a job at the American branch of a Chinese company Microsoft. It works for tier ones, not sure how you go about getting a tech job in a tier 3 city like Chengdu. You could probably teach English though, lots of opportunities still. Oh my Only megacities there "work" for a Western person.

JBReefer 9 months ago. Very hard for legal reasons: i. Not to say, your Mandarin should be as good as that of locals, along the knowledge of local dialect if you venture far inland. Unless you're fluent in chinese, it will be extremely difficult to get around in these tier 3 cities like chengdu. Shanghai and beijing are a bit more international, but even stilll, english is relatively scarely spoken.

Just imagine having to go to the doctors', that would be extremely traumatic. My wife and I had no interest in being cold! We originally eliminated private schools and focused on public schools since we had only lived in areas like San Francisco and Miami.

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We added them back when we realized other areas like Atlanta have reasonably priced private schools. We wanted our kids to hear multiple languages and learn about different customs and celebrations. So things like cost of house and amount of state taxes was an important issue for us. The cost of living in Puerto Rico is comparable to Utah and Georgia, weather is amazing, and the private schools are top notch.

Most people here are bilingual and well traveled. It is an amazing community to be part of and I'm glad we made the move. We also have fiber internet for the first time in our lives since it was only available in small parts of any of the cities we lived previously, so our work is much better :. When I realised that I no longer needed to live in California in order to run my business MusicBrainz , I decided to move to Barcelona. As a friend of mine said: Barcelona isn't a 10 out of 10 on anything. But it is an 8 or 9 out of 10 on everything.

Good weather, amazing food, great people, great public transport, great airport, high speed rail and best of all: No republicans. Why not? I've tried a couple of times to write a reply that sufficiently explains our concerns, without writing a novel about life in Thailand. Unless you live like a hermit, you can't be the sole influence on a child - they will learn things from their school, relatives, etc.

Greetings from Berlin. My wife said she wanted to live in Europe, and so I took the first interesting job which happened to be in Berlin. Fell in love, that was seven years ago My dad was in the military, so we moved often. Columbus was a little too small and religious for me, so I got a job and moved to Atlanta.

Close enough to visit the family, but a good city with lots of tech jobs. I lived all over Atlanta, but one thing I always did was live inside the perimeter. That refers to interstate , which circles the city. After renting for many years my wife and I bought a house in the city of Decatur. Tharkun 9 months ago. I live in Antwerp, Belgium's second largest city. There are basically only three cities worthy of the name in Belgium.

Antwerp kind of hits the sweet spot between big enough to have everything you need, and yet small enough to be liveable. There isn't much in the way of a tech scene. The Belgian tax man makes startups pretty much non-starters.


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Wages are taxed to death, so there isn't much in the way of competition for engineers. The vast majority of software engineers are working for the government in one way or another Belgium has so many governments that this isn't an exaggeration. As for how I decided where to live: I didn't consciously do so. I basically looked for jobs, found one over here, and moved here. My reasoning was it's also a wealthy place with high real estate prices and good restaurants, but is in a more natural setting.

Clean air, hiking, camping, skiing, etc Shenzhen is my main base of operation, been the best deal for buck for lifestyle and "having life. China was more or less welcoming to high flyer demographics living in the country on business visas, but the times seem to be changing. For this reason, I am planning on obtaining a residence permit next year.


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For decades, China was all about it being no questions asked about anybody with a legit business staying in the country on long term business visas. They were effectively residence permits. In , they first started looking more into the legitimacy of the business, and in they put it bluntly that 10 year M visa holders have to get work visas if they are to live in the country for any length of time regardless of the origin of their income.

Shenzhen became a very pleasant city to live in the last 10 years, in fact it is said to be the most liveable city in Asia by many rankings. I can say confidently that the city scores more on livability than any US megapolis. For me, it depends on the future state of things if I am to continue living there. I admit, there is a risk that China may start kicking out foreigners from the country just for the sake of it. I am I lived 2. I worked in electronics, and manufacturing since my first job when I was an exchange student in Singapore.

Even back in , I was thinking about moving to China as one can't do a thing in electronics industry without doing things in Shenzhen. I think many here are baffled why in the world so many high flying professionals from Western countries come to China in their sane mind. I tell that: yes, the choice for going to China is a bitter pill to swallow; you are choosing in between comfy everyday life, liberties and freedom on one hand, and being able to live life to its fullest, exhilaratingly dynamic business environment, and a chance of becoming somebody before you hit your retirement age.

Out of the country now, should be back at around CNY.

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Just started my remote journey. Why Montana? My sister convinced me to visit as she lives here. Loved it. I was faced with moving anyway, so I could move into a cardboard box with bars on the windows, or I could move into a large, beautiful home on lots of property in a beautiful land. I asked work, and they supported going remote. It was a no brainier. The cost of real estate is great.

I got something in Montana that would have cost easily 6x in SoCal. The state actually tries for a balanced budget. Not as many assholes on the road. People are generally nicer. Taxes are better. The catch? Economic opportunities are scarce. We looked for places with no income tax. Interesting people and things our family was into.

Relatively warm climate and near an airport with relatively connected international flights. Ended up in Sarasota once we had kids to be near family. Have you found the additional property tax to cancel out any benefits of no state Income tax? In our situation and tax bracket, state income tax was the most important part of optimizing our overall tax burden. Property tax and sales tax isn't bad here or in Nashville. Ideologically, I think taxes should be based on consumption, not on earning power. Interesting that you put it like that, no income tax, rather than optimal services for the tax paid.

Do you consider that as a richer person you should directly contribute financially to the improvement of the society that you live in at all; or is it that you see property tax as a fairer way to do that? Or something else? I'm not the GP, but I don't think that paying more taxes is the best way to improve society.

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I'm not rich, but as someone making above median wages and living in a low-COL area with no state income taxes, I put my money where my mouth is by contributing an amount roughly equal to my annual federal income tax to local charities that provide a variety of services to people in need. Thanks for responding, if I may probe further -- is it that you think the state can't provide the services those charities do, or that your particular local incarnation of it won't ever?

Where I am, a poor UK city, the Christian Churches provide a lot of services to the poor homeless shelters, food banks, pensioners meals, friendship clubs, pregnancy counselling, family counselling, pastoral care often with referral by front line council workers. Most of those services are free at the point of need only family counselling is charged for IIRC but couldn't operate on those budgets as council services -- largely because they rely on donations of buildings from the Churches, and donation of time from volunteers.

The council has to rent, and has to pay at least minimum wage. So, in a way these essential community services work outside the state machine doing something that in a socialist setting government is expected to do. I can see this works inasmuch as those services exist, when they seemingly wouldn't otherwise, but the payment for those services isn't as fairly distributed as if it were acquired by taxation IMO. Also, in theory on a state level you save optimise service provision to save administration and logistics costs; whilst local piecemeal approaches can be relatively expensive Any further thoughts?

It's a complicated topic and tough to do it justice in a brief post, but a couple brief thoughts anyway. I believe that I as an individual have a moral obligation to provide aid to the poor. I do not believe that government has that responsibility. Ultimately the government is funded via taxation backed by the threat of force. As such, taxing some citizens to provide aid to others is a form of legislating morality. I think the legislation of morality is warranted primarily in the negative, that is, to prohibit things such as murder, theft, assault, etc.

Secondly, I believe that aid to the poor is most effective and of greater benefit to both the giver and the recipient when it is done in a relational context which is not to say that aid is given directly from the giver to the recipient, just that it's localized enough that the givers and recipients are in the same community. The giver can see the tangible effects of his generosity and the recipient can see the care shown by the giver.

By its nature, government aid is impersonal and therefore less beneficial. The "givers" in that case, who are "giving" often only under compulsion, often feel exploited and resentful. Many recipients develop a sense of entitlement since there's no direct connection between the aid they receive and their fellow citizens who provided that aid. I do agree with you that taking government out of the aid business would result in less uniform funding for aid, but I think that's a lesser problem than forcing it on everyone.

I wish awareness of those kinds of things were greater. As a Massachusetts resident, our neighboring state, New Hampshire has no income tax. Those at work who looked into moving there have noted, the commute is much worse, income tax is negated a lot by high property taxes. When the company started downsizing it was noted that those in NH had significantly worse unemployment benefits. Some feel its worth it, but a lot don't. I think we had one person move. Curious what you mean by additional property tax? Is that something in all of FL or just that county?

Maybe you were referencing Nashville? The county voters will pass levies to raise additional monies for the local school system. Florida is an awesome location. You can basically catch a direct flight to anywhere in the USA and some European destinations. Weather, no State income tax, low pollution, access to some of best medical in the USA, etc. It's in my plans to move there one day. At the moment I live in what I consider another top contender, DFW has access to anywhere in the world via direct flights. No state income tax, excellent access to medical, lower cost of living than the North East, etc.

There is also a lot of available work. Interestingly enough Bloomberg ran an article that it is the 1 place for people relocating from the LA, NY and Chicago. The only downside is the lack of serious technology employers. So unless you land a remote gig, or are happy as a road warrior, it's tough to find work. My wife told me where we'd live. That was it. Many Spanish cities have a very small town vibe, while including high quality public transit infrastructure, great sunny weather, and very family friendly environments. I already can speak Spanish, so this is a plus for me.

I like traveling, but those are the two places I'd settle down in or retire. StevenForth 9 months ago. My wife and I have chosen to live in Vancouver twice. Once in after ten years in Tokyo 8 and Copenhagen 2 and again in after six years in Cambridge MA. I grew up in Montreal. We chose Vancouver for some simple reasons. Direct flights to Tokyo, decent sushi, a culturally diverse environment in which to raise our multicultural children now grandchildren , an interesting arts scene in the 80s and 90s, it has declined as housing prices have gone up and a relatively open society and political system.

Economic opportunity was not a factor as I have always worked globally. Innovation thrives on the edges and where different cultures rub up against each other. My wife and I grew up in a small town outside of Pittsburgh, PA. It was easy to stick around because we had a child and I found a decent job out of school. I felt lucky with my employment situation at the time because the area has virtually nothing going for it and is getting worse year after year.

The people who can leave, move away - and everyone else sticks around. Fast forward a few years and I was doing contract work for a customer in Denver, CO and they offered to relocate us to Denver and brought me on full time. I grew up in a small town in Ohio[0], and my first job out of school was in Pittsburgh, late After slowly going through 2 other jobs, I found a place with a team that feels like family and pays well.

I've been living in the South Hills area for 3 years, and I wouldn't dare live anywhere else. The T is awesome. I learned pretty quickly that Ohio equals Cleveland to people from Pittsburgh. RyJones 9 months ago. Microsoft relocated me to the Seattle area in I went full time remote about four years ago. I'm too lazy to move. I'd like to live elsewhere, but SeaTac is well connected and I like the weather. Too many people in Seattle. Lived in Paris for the last 11 years. Planning to change country again!

Berlin Edit : open minded people is the reason. Berlin is actually not very open-minded, after 8 years of living across the world its probably least I would say. The reason for that is, because if you don't fit into a "hipster, dj, art" culture, you will be constantly reminded.

Try getting to a bar as a foreigner and wearing a shirt sometime I don't work remotely, but I did make a decision to live somewhere else. I moved from the Netherlands to Romania. I travelled to Romania a couple of times for business and really liked the atmosphere and the people. Met my girlfriend in Romania and moved here about three years ago. Been loving it ever since. The city I am in has one of the lowest crime rates in Europe and some of the cleanest air in Europe.

Beautiful nature within an hour drive and lots of friendly people. HoppyHaus 9 months ago. I've heard a lot of nice things about Romania, but what are the downsides? Honestly considering moving there at some point, though I likely won't. I'd love to hear what other people are considering. Seeing that I'm in NYC, I think there are a few cultural, political and culinary reasons to choose a city to transition few. Cyph0n 9 months ago. Regarding your list of concerns, I share with you: explosive growth, zero public transport, and suburban hell. The job market is good but not great. None of the big tech companies have a presence here, except Google for nothing more than historic reasons.

I highly doubt that this will change anytime soon, simply because of the poor infrastructure and transit. I'm still just starting my career, so I want to at least try out working at a big tech company. Also, my wife and I travel pretty frequently to Tunisia, and flights from RDU are long and expensive. But when buying a home, you should not only consider the cost of living, but how you measure your well-being within the city, community, and neighborhood, Stanley Fallaw said. What's more important to you? World globe An icon of the world globe, indicating different international options.

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